{"id":240294,"date":"2024-01-09T02:20:37","date_gmt":"2024-01-09T02:20:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/buoyantbloomer.com\/?p=240294"},"modified":"2024-01-09T02:42:41","modified_gmt":"2024-01-09T02:42:41","slug":"nyc-gifted-and-talented","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buoyantbloomer.com\/nyc-gifted-and-talented\/","title":{"rendered":"What you need to know about the NYC Gifted and Talented Program (2024-2025 School Year)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Happy New Year and welcome to your VERY opinionated guide to the NYC Gifted and Talented program for the 2024-2025 school year. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

TL:DR for those who have been following me –> nothing has changed with the program since last year, so all of my spicy hot takes on the #RealTalk considerations for G&T admissions<\/a> remain the same. Why should you keep reading if you already absorbed all the strategies from last year’s post???<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A G&T seat does not absolve you of having to supplement your child’s education. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And if you have a general ed seat, this is going to be true 90% of the time if you assume that only 10% of teachers can truly be exceptional. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Also nope – the private school families aren’t taking their foot of this pedal. If anything, these families are the ones who can and do invest most heavily in supplementing school. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\ud83d\udcef I have new guidance on the education mindshift parents of Preschool + Kindergarten students need to make. This shift is based on a personal experience our family has had at a Brooklyn charter school that is widely regarded as a crown jewel in the NYC public education system. Scroll to the section on why all parents of Kindergarteners need to teach their kids to read section to read about it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Let’s get kickin’ and talk about all things NYC G&T shall we? Here we go!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Strategies for Applying to the NYC Kindergarten Gifted and Talented Program<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

#1: Rank schools in true preference order. <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

I have fond memories of working with Joyce Szuflita and Dana Szarf from NYC School Help<\/a> in putting together our personal list of 12 schools to rank and even in public forums where they aren’t compensated for their advice, this is what they tell you to do. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if your local zoned school that doesn’t have a gifted and talented program is your first choice? DO NOT rank the G&T program first. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The algorithm will out-smart all of us. Do not try to game it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

#2 Pay attention to the random number your child is assigned. <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

When we applied to Kindergarten for the 2023-2024 school year, our random number was atrocious. 78.5% of families had higher numbers than ours. We applied to two NYC gifted and talented programs, and listed NEST+M as our first choice school. Spoiler alert: we were #652 on the NEST+M waitlist, dropping to #641 by September 2023 after school started. We had no chance in hell with our random number. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ultimately, it didn’t harm our overall outcome – we received an offer to our #5 pick at a highly respected Brooklyn public school where we knew that at least one of the Kindergarten teachers was not teaching using science of reading aligned methods. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

But then came the charter school placement which we took. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The moral of the story? You want your random number <\/a>to start with just a number for the best chances. That link has a handy table for calculating what percentage of students are ahead of your number so you can level set your chances of receiving an offer. You can safely place your Hail Mary picks in the #1 and #2 slots, so go for it, but remember that we were #652 on the waitlist for NEST+M. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

#3 You can always apply again <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Ignoring the fact that the only true accelerated nyc gifted and talented programs are at the five city-wide schools, you can always apply again for G&T in 1st-4th grade<\/a>s. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

In these later application cycles, eligibility is based on grades, and your child can only earn 3s and 4s to be considered. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Seats are still scarce, most districts have no more than three G&T programs, and the Adams expansion of the G&T program only promised that each district would have at least one school offering a gifted and talented program. NYC didn’t even make assurances that there would be more than one gifted education class per grade. As I noted in the 2023-2024 summary<\/a> – your chances of getting a seat are laughable. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

But real talk – if you’re not attending an accelerated gifted education program (and there are only five such programs) – the value your child will get from a G&T program needs to be tempered with realism. Do not blanket assume your child will get “a better” education. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The gap in perceived quality of education is likely much lower than parents are assuming if they are considering a district and not a citywide NYC gifted and talented program. If you have a burdensome commute to a district gifted program, think hard about the morning stress you are signing up for. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

#4 There are G&T specific factors to consider<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

This link provides four things to assess in gifted education programs<\/a>. In our family’s case, our experience in a highly coveted Brooklyn charter school shows us that the local NYC gifted and education program would not serve our son at all (see section below on why parents of Kindergarteners need to teach their kids how to read to understand what shortcomings parents can expect even at a top rated school).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The starting point to consider whether your child would benefit from a gifted program is knowing where they are in terms of Kindergarten competencies. If your child is a whole grade level or more beyond the grade they are currently enrolled in, the un-accelerated G&T program will not be helpful whatsoever. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Become familiar with the common core state standards for ELA<\/a> and the common core standards for math<\/a>. I’ve also created this completely free guide that summarizes the 68 Kindergarten common core standards<\/a> your child needs to master. Download that free CoreClarity guide<\/a> to know with certainty whether a G&T program would even help your child. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The only options that can help your child are: 1) skipping a grade, 2) enrolling in a private school that can support your high ability child, 3) supplementing school after the school day ends. A DIY gifted and talented education<\/a> is feasible – supplementing school doesn’t have to automatically mean hiring a battery of tutors. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

#5 Consider the full picture <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

A local school consultant like Joyce and Dana in Brooklyn who can help you put together your list of 12 is a luxury I recommend. You may not have time to attend all the school tours or solicit multiple opinions, and this is where their input and experience really shines. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

BUT – a 2- hour consult with any consultant will still require you to sort out your priorities which may still fluctuate even after your Zoom or phone call ends. Enter – the Confident Decision Maker’s Toolkit<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I created this course and the school selection tool spreadsheet after several sessions with Joyce and Dana. Something that was missing from our conversations was exactly what criteria to evaluate when it comes to schools. To consider a scarce NYC gifted and talented program seat against the broader school landscape requires you to really understand what is meaningful to the only three people that have true skin in the game for this decision: you, your spouse, and your child. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

We were very happy with our consultations. To use a term I saw another parent throw around – if you’re just looking for a “school picker” – then a consultant is all you need. But there are limitations to this approach – especially if you’re a first-time parent – that CDMT compensates for. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Learning Mindset Shift Families of Preschoolers and Kindergarteners Need to Make Now<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

There’s no sugar coating it – parents will have to be more engaged in their children’s educations even if they are enrolled in the NYC gifted and talented program or any G&T program. There’s a \u26c8\ufe0f perfect storm brewing:<\/p>\n\n\n\n